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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 8:52:47 GMT -8
Sweeer guys. Im glad to hear it. I think this is enough people to get started today! I am going to be out until 330 but I will get it rolling then with your job offers.
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Post by risewithus56 on Jul 30, 2013 10:35:47 GMT -8
The one thing I would note with coordinators is that User vs. User games are going to take just as long as normal and each coordinator will be either against the CPU or watching the action... And if it's an OC vs a DC, I think they would each watch the CPU vs CPU action... Just a thought. With these low level programs, head coach might not be all bad. That could also alleviate any concerns of coordinators controlling recruiting.
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 15:49:30 GMT -8
I see what you are saying, but I will point out that in user v user games, you control both sides of the ball, even if your just a coordinator.
Maybe if people want we could have 3 coordinator offers and 1 HC offer. The offer to HC would be from 1 of the 10 worst schools in the game. That way if people want to be an HC, then they can.
Recruiting is going to be hard to monitor I think for coordinators, so I am not sure how to do that. I already hate how EA makes it so you can sign 25 scholarships, but the rosters are capped at 70. That doesnt make sense to me, because it creates a larger percentage of freshmen than in reality. With 25 of 85 is 29.4%, where 25 0f 70 is 35.7%. I think capping the amount you can sign at 20 would make more sense, but that is probably just me.
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 15:50:11 GMT -8
Okay guys,
I have to head out for a couple of hours, but after that, I will input all of the members and the possible teams into excel and run the simulation to create your job offers. Expect those around 7pm pacific tonight!
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Post by risewithus56 on Jul 30, 2013 16:23:48 GMT -8
Definitely think all head coaches or all coordinators is the best way to go, at least to start, since obviously that will change as the seasons go on. But wait, in a User vs. user game you don't control both sides of the ball, do you? Isn't it just your side that you're coordinating?
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 17:29:54 GMT -8
Im pretty sure you do controll both sides in user vs user games even if you are just a coordinator. I rememer thats how it was in 13 at least.
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Post by risewithus56 on Jul 30, 2013 17:51:55 GMT -8
I read on OS that this year you have to just watch the opponent and the CPU.
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 20:59:21 GMT -8
Hmm that is kind of odd. In a way, I like that better (although it is probably boring to some). Seems realistic to me. Everyone will get a HC offer though, so they do not have to do that if they dont want to. I am actually working on this simulation now.
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 21:46:07 GMT -8
Okay guys I ran a simulation and this is how it turned up: I made it so you get 4 coordinator offers plus 2 HC offers so you have some choices... Matt: Coordinator (off or d) offers from: UAB, Army, Troy, and FIU. Idaho and Texas State have offered you a head coaching position Bryan: Your coordinator offers are from Wyoming, Middle Tennessee State, Idaho, and Louisiana Lawfeyette. New Mexico and Eastern Michigan have offered you Head coaching positions Lawless: UAB, Old Dominion, Army, Bowling Green have offered you coordinator positions. Eastern Mich and Arkon have offered you to be the head man Hookem: Wyoming, North Texas, South Alabama, and Georgia state have offered you coordinator positions. South Alabama and New Mexico State have offered you the head coach ATL: Georgia State, Miami (ohio), Army, and Bowling Green have offered you coordinator positions. While, South Bama and New Mexico offered you the hc job Kaleb: Central Mich, FIU, Louisiana Lawfeyette, and Western Michigan have offered you coordinator positions. Eastern Mich and Texas state have offered you the head coach gig cjcow: Lousiana Lawfeyette, Texas State, Tulane, and FIU have offered you cordinator gigs, while Georgia State, and Umass offered you the HC gig (I ran your HC simulation again because it turned out duplicate numbers and i did not realize that until the end. Changing one block in the simulation re-runs the entire thing) Here is a screen shot:
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Post by risewithus56 on Jul 30, 2013 21:53:01 GMT -8
Oh, are we running with just eight coaches?
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 22:06:18 GMT -8
I have invited more and a few more might join. I just wanted to get this going for guys for now since it will take a few days to start up anyways.
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Post by risewithus56 on Jul 30, 2013 22:14:49 GMT -8
I just got to thinking, what if coordinators couldn't recruit? As it sits now, the only reason to be a HC over a coordinator is to play the snaps on the opposite end of the ball. As an OC (or a DC), you can control absolutely everything, including recruiting, except playing those few plays on that side. If coordinators couldn't recruit, at all, it would really create an incentive to grab a head coaching job instead of just being content controlling virtually everything with no real differentiation between the two job types.
Just a thought. That way being a head coach would actually have some value, even as a weaker team, and it would eliminate the concern of recruiting only your side of the ball or the unrealism of recruiting players on the opposite unit (defensive players for an OC and vice versa).
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 30, 2013 22:40:16 GMT -8
That is a somewhat interesting thought. I think I kind of like that idea. It is up to everyone though.
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Post by prototype12 on Jul 31, 2013 5:52:29 GMT -8
I have one comment on recruiting. One possibility would be say I pick OC. I can recruit only O players and use 2500 of the allowed 5000 weekly points. Is there a way the commish can check that? I'm assuming if you leave assistance on the CPU will use the rest for any D players on your board. I say this simply because if someone takes a coordinator at a powerhouse after a few years of dominating I know I would sure like to be able to recruit say I get a Texas OC job or a Michigan DC job I would like to hand pick my big recruits..see what I mean?
On to the schools
Well I had two schools I looked into and wanted Tulane and ULL and I got UL Lafayette. I see others did too so I'll call dibs on them as a OC I think is the way I'll go..
I'm gonna research my two HC offers and look at the roster but they are probably terrible lol so just wanted to snag up my first option
Second question. I know you guys did alot of roster work..would it be okay if once we pick a school we double check with anything we find on the Internet to make sure the starters and everything are correct? I'm a stickler for that. I would get so mad if we get halfway through the season and see my real life starter is like 5th on my depth chart..thoughts on that? Of course everyone doesn't have to do this if they don't want
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Post by GONNATEAMKILLU on Jul 31, 2013 7:08:30 GMT -8
Ill go ahead and take the OC job at Wyoming if that is how we are doing this! If we only go the HC route i will take the New Mexico job.
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Post by BentleyA on Jul 31, 2013 7:45:11 GMT -8
Kaleb, ULL is definitely the way to go. They are actually pretty decent and I have them actually winning the Sun Belt this year. Surprisingly, they are one of three teams in the Sun Belt that have a QB that might have a chance in the NFL.
Wyoming is another good choice.
As for recruiting goes, I should be able to see how many points you allocated (used to be able to see how many hours you had left to call I believe), so something like that could work, as long as the cpu actually did do the recruiting.
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Post by prototype12 on Jul 31, 2013 8:06:07 GMT -8
Yeah man especially with created coaches not being allowed to leave after a year for new job (glitch or whatever..but I like this) Broadway is a junior and can carry me through my two years or more.
I think I'm going to stick with them even if we do the no recruiting for coordinators. Can't pass up on the offensive talent they have.
Only problem I see with recruiting is your total sticks week to week. So if I use 2500 and the comp uses 2500 it's 5000 every week. Perhaps we all have to reset it to zero every week then use 2500 again so you can tell.
Maybe a way to go is while at this first school as a coordinator you cannot recruit but you can if you take a coordinator job at a bigger school. As a guy said earlier this provides incentive to choose a HC gig. But allows you to profit from taking a big coordinator job down the road as well
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Post by hookem2034 on Jul 31, 2013 9:20:46 GMT -8
If we go the coordinator route, I would take North Texas as OC.
If we go the HC route, I would take New Mexico State.
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Post by hookem2034 on Jul 31, 2013 9:28:20 GMT -8
My gamertag is Hookem35
Also, I think I may just stick with this one, and play Texas in my offline dynasty. I don't want to get too spread out with trying to keep up with 3. I haven't tried to build up a team yet, so I am looking forward to this type of OD!
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Post by lawlesslawls on Jul 31, 2013 9:29:34 GMT -8
Gimme Bowling Green's OC position if we're doing coordinators.
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